My Notes from #CLS2022: Rising Scholars - Exploring Pathways: Finding Your Place of Impact

Wendy Roldan:

introducing the panel Exploring Pathways: Finding Your Place of Impact

is a UX researcher at Google, place of impact with users in studies at work

Kiley Sobel:

UX researcher at Duolingo with ABC app focused on kids' reading in their native language, impact is with learners, kids, families, parents, teachers, and the product itself

Deborah Fields:

works for Utah State University but lives in Long Beach, CA, does curriculum design, teacher education, and research, always exploring new pathways for impact

Andres Lombana-Bermudez:

based in Bogota, Colombia, Associate Professor at Universidad Javeriana, research center in Colombia, and Berkman at Harvard. Impact follows a winding and networked pathway. Part of the Digital Media & Learning Initiative since the beginning.

I (Kimberly) love hearing how varied Andres's pathway has been! Focuses on projects & collaborations as much as positions/institutions. <3!

Jennifer Pierre:

UX Researcher at YouTube working on fan-funding, also instructor and affiliated researcher at universities

Wendy Roldan:

What strategies/values/criteria did you use to navigate your own process of finding your place of impact? What helped ground you? What did you prioritize?

Deborah Fields:

Find the heart of who you are and what you want to do and keep it at the center as you try a bunch of different things.

is knitting right now. I'm (Kimberly) crocheting right now!

goal was to support youth across their lives & now does so through curriculum design, teacher education, research.

Be open to relationships and opportunities. Sometimes you feel like you're pushing against a wall. Take a break from pushing against the wall and look for what's already open.

Making connections across spaces (eg families & institutions, communities & workspace) is the heart of Debbie's work. Allowing parts of life outside research to come through in research life.

Andres Lombana-Bermudez:

Impact is a moving target in the face of change. Be attuned to your context. Grasp opportunities as they appear.

Pay attention to communities and mentors who give you space to join your interests.

It takes energy to keep finding projects, grow, connect, build communities.

Jennifer Pierre:

Searching for the intersections where your impact will be takes time and work. Think about the types of impact you want your work to have, what outcomes do you want your work to have? Who do you want to be affected? In what ways?

YouTube team leveraged specific work from Jen's dissertation to impact product development and that was really exciting.

Kiley Sobel:

tried a lot of things out in grad school. Academic research, contributing to academic community & body of knowledge, direct impact on kids in classrooms, volunteered at conferences, TAed, volunteered in early childhood classroom, internships.

Applied to lots of different jobs, teaching postdocs at liberal arts, faculty at R1, UX at big tech company, research scientist at non-profit. Paid attention to what held a draw.

Started @ Joan Ganz Cooney Center impacting policy from 30,000 feet view, wanted next to get experience working on a specific project. Important to recognize that whatever you're trying now isn't something your locked into forever.

Wendy Roldan:

Any standout moments that led to the work you're doing now?

Kiley Sobel:

The interview process gave specific signal into whether community was energizing.

Deborah Fields:

Unsuccessful job search led to postdoc with mentor Yasmin Kafai on e-textiles grants. Didn't get job at Cooney Center that Kiley did but DID get work from them doing a lit review with a colleague from a different grad school.

Wendy Roldan:

Sometimes saying NO is what leads you to your impact.

Jennifer Pierre:

Echoes Wendy's point. Saying no clarifies priorities: I want to live in a particular place, I don't want to live away from my partner. Also echoes Kiley's point about gut checks.

Wendy Roldan:

How would you suggest going about finding opportunities to explore places of potential impact?

Andres Lombana-Bermudez:

Try & apply to different things. Doing an internship during PhD program in a crisis led to connecting with a community of mentors and peers encouraging a networked, omnivorous mindset.

You need a lot of luck. The more that you try, the more opportunities you'll be able to grasp.

Deborah Fields:

Sometimes the closed doors are powerful in opening up new opportunities.

Jennifer Pierre:

Apply to jobs in places you might not have thought you would end up.

You might need to be more assertive than you would normally be, introduce yourself to people whose work you admire.

Kiley Sobel:

Relationships are important even if you have to foster them yourself.

Deborah Fields:

Academic mentors are good at academia but you might have to look outside academia for people who can mentor you in other areas.

If you're following up on a connection, you may need to remind them how you connected before. You don't know where relationships will lead.

Kiley Sobel:

It might not be someone who is already in a position more advanced than yours. Might be another student or someone you met when you were both students.

Wendy Roldan:

How important were relationships to finding your opportunities? How did you navigate the awkwardness of asking for referrals or help finding positions? How did someone else extend an opportunity for you in a way that felt graceful?

Kiley Sobel:

Make connections BEFORE the exact opportunity is available. Don't wait until you see a particular job. Build relationships with people who are making the kind of impact you want. That feels more genuine.

Deborah Fields:

Relationships start early and you don't know where they will lead.

Maintain connections with people mentors introduce you to.

Sometimes you connect over hobbies - people just approach me because I knit publicly.

Approach people with deep respect.

Andres Lombana-Bermudez:

For Andres: How do you make an impact in the diverse Colombian context? How do you meet the expectations of your boss and your own expectations?

There is a shortage of resources in Colombia. It can be difficult to find research funding. At universities you need to start negotiating your agenda as a researcher and balance it with the teaching aspects. The emphasis here is more on teaching.

If you can create your own non-profit/institution, you will have more control over your own priorities because there's not a boss to tell you no.

Wendy Roldan:

What last thoughts or pieces of advice do you have for people wanting to find their place of impact?

Jennifer Pierre:

Be open to new opportunities. Find ways to blend and combine your multiple interests. Carve out space to have more exploratory or informational conversations with people.

Reaching out early sets you up for having relationships and networks later.

Deborah Fields:

Find the heart that keeps you going. You will have to do things that aren't part of your passion. You will find places where your passion stretches out beyond your job. You can't predict where things will happen.

Protect that heart. Find ways that feel authentic to you. Be open to places that will connect with it that you didn't expect.

Andres Lombana-Bermudez:

Find communities whose interests and heart resonate with yours. As you join them and exchange ideas, you may find the pathway that connects your personal interests with the places that you can have an impact.

Kiley Sobel:

Be open to learning through the experience. Through the experience of getting somewhere you might find what fulfills you in an unexpected way.

Things will change and that's okay.

Wendy Roldan:

What's one thing you're looking forward to continuing or trying new as you navigate your path?

Deborah Fields:

Supporting and studying K-12 computer science teachers without having prior experience in K-12. Advocating for them through publications and academia. Find ways to support them, their creativity & impact on students.

My Notes from #CLS2022: Rising Scholars - Sharing Work Beyond Academic Publishing

Alexis Hope:

Alexis worked on hackathons including the Make the Breast Pump Not Suck hackathon (love it!) and others to bring people together to hack policy, services, & norms related to postpartum experience.

Jean Ryoo:

loves Alexis's work. Breast pumps are awful! Jean is director of CompSci equity project at UCLA. Jean taught high school & middle school English and social studies and got excited about critical pedagogy & addressing systemic issues.

Jean's research focuses on equity issues in computer science education.

Jean's recent research tries to elevate the voices of youth who have been pushed out of the world of computing and are experiencing their first computing class in high school.

How can we push the tech industry to recognize that they are responsible for the ethical implications of what they create? How can we get involved in changing this? Jean wrote a graphic novel called Power On about teens + CS & CS heroes addressing inequity.

Clifford Lee:

Cliff works in teacher education and the same project as Jean, also with YR Media where youth produce and create media.

Cliff's work is at the intersection of computational thinking, critical pedagogy, and creative arts expression.

Marisa Morán Jahn:

Marisa shares about porous authorship structures as opposed to the black box model of academic publishing.

Co-design process is reciprocal, traditional publishing is extractive.

Takeaways: Who are you trying to reach? Why now? Who is the right person to distribute the info? What kind of media does your audience consume? When?

Santiago Ojeda-Ramirez:

Santiago asks what resources were helpful to panelists in beginning sharing beyond academia.

Clifford Lee:

All the work from YR media is meant to be shared with the public. Research focuses on pedagogy, curriculum, and process.

Cliff makes it a point to present to educators, publish op eds, trade pubs.

It's important to consider the writing style in trade publishing & for non-academic audiences to make it readable, break the mold grad school may have pushed you into.

Have conversations about your work with people outside of your work and relationships and partnerships can develop. "Academia's not necessarily meant to get you to be a public intellectual." Read more journalistic writing, academics who write trade books

"Academia's not necessarily meant to get you to be a public intellectual." Read more journalistic writing, academics who write trade books.

Jean Ryoo:

Think about who surrounds you. Are you only talking to other academics? Don't drop your non-academic friends & family. Meet people outside academia.

Jean was an avid reader of graphic novels & manga but hadn't written one before and had to learn to write a comic script instead of description.

"Graphic Novel Writing for Dummies"-type resources can be helpful to learn how experts in the medium work (like Neil Gaiman or Superman writers).

Marisa Morán Jahn:

Academic publishers often do a small run like 400 copies. Other outlets have wider reach.

Popular media is a lot of eyes if the people who you're trying to reach consume that outlet. "Where are people's eyeballs?"

There's value in directly impacting fewer people, too.

There's the question of impact and the question of scale and how you should negotiate that depends on the project and your goals.

Alexis Hope:

For the Breast Pump hackathon, the goal was to change the narrative of breastfeeding from personal choice to structural one (importance of employment policies, healthcare) and prepped for communicating with the media.

https://makethebreastpumpnotsuck.com/research

Another goal was to change the culture of the media lab because the breastpump project wasn't future-focused enough or was too weird; deliberately targeted academic publishing as well to push back against that perception.

Santiago Ojeda-Ramirez:

How do you balance the output demands & needs of academia/academic publishing with these non-traditional forms of sharing your work? How do you communicate the impact and value of this work within the academic context? How do we move past the h-index?

Marisa Morán Jahn:

Why should I spend so much time on the peer review process? How deep is that impact? It can feel hard to justify but toggling or balancing and using academic vocabulary with peers can sharpen our thinking about those issues.

You can increase citations to underrepresented scholars and include voices from outside academia when you author academic work.

Jean Ryoo:

"Balance doesn't exist in my life right now... COVID has made things work."

Jean has an academic position as a researcher but steps of advancement aren't tied to tenure because the work is grant-based. Getting academic AND non-academic audiences excited about a graphic novel because it's based on research & translating research is important.

Getting academic AND non-academic audiences excited about a graphic novel because it's based on research & translating research is important.

I'm excited that my first, maybe only book, is a graphic novel because the kids in my family are reading it.

It's a graphic novel published by an academic publisher (MIT press).

Clifford Lee:

We need to speak to academic audiences AND other audiences. Be intentional and strategic.

Being at a liberal arts institution is different than being at an R1. What department, school, or college you're in will affect what kind of output is considered as impact.

Some institutions will value podcasts and other media.

Alexis Hope:

published an academic paper about the breastpump hackathon and followed that with a toolkit for people who want to host hackathons. It can be helpful to think through things as you write academic work and then leverage that thought process when writing popular work.

It can be helpful to think through things as you write academic work and then leverage that thought process when writing popular work.

Santiago Ojeda-Ramirez:

What advice would you give to early career scholars who want to pursue academic careers and also sharpen their skills for creating art/writing outside academia?

You panelists are inspiring. Who inspired you?

Clifford Lee:

Mike Rose from UCLA. Both Cliff & Jean had him as a professor. He translated academic knowledge to a mainstream audience. Cliff learned about the writing process from him.

How do I convey through storytelling the same message as research, but in a powerful, motivating, engaging way?

Jean Ryoo:

Mike was always practicing the art of beautiful writing. Every day he was writing on a yellow notepad with a pencil. It wasn't an egotistical, egocentric practice. He was thinking deeply about the people he had met & trying to convey their stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rose_(educator)

Artists we enjoy like David Bowie, Yayoi Kusama. Re-read books like you want to write - Jean re-read the March trilogy. Be inspired by the different ways a story can be told.

Alexis Hope:

Catherine D'Ignazio (<3 Data Feminism)

Mitch Resnick & Natalie Rusk

Marisa Morán Jahn:

Get in the habit of doing primary ethnography, engage with real people in real life that you're accountable to, transcribe your conversations with them, it's transformative for you as a speaker & them as a listener.

The Shakers thought about rendering their own religious views through arts, which is close to the practice of making public scholarship.

Alexis Hope:

Ethan Zuckerman had students practice non-academic writing

Marisa Morán Jahn:

Sarah Pink's Sensory Ethnography

Fostering Information Literacy Through Autonomy and Guidance in the Inquiry and Maker Learning Environments - Koh et al, 2020

Koh, K., Ge, X., Lee, L., Lewis, K. R., Simmons, S., & Nelson, L. (2020). Fostering Information Literacy Through Autonomy and Guidance in the Inquiry and Maker Learning Environments. In J. H. Kalir & D. Filipiak (Eds.), Proceedings of the 2019 Connected Learning Summit (pp. 94–101). ETC Press.

This is a quick note that I’m really excited about this conference paper I found that builds a bridge between connected learning (my broad research interest) and information literacy (my specific disciplinary interest). I’m going to explore it more and dig into the connection later, but I’m psyched to find a new paper on this.

Theory to practice: Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good

As we work on the Transforming Teen Services for Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion project, one thing I have to be reminded frequently is that creating Connected Learning programming does not require providing for all three spheres: interests, relationships, and opportunities. Frameworks like Connected Learning begin as more descriptive than prescriptive: they say, “This is what’s been happening,” not “This is the only way to make it happen.” People like myself latch onto the aspirational qualities of this description and feel that if they can’t create a Connected Learning experience that encompasses the whole model, we shouldn’t even bother trying.

WE ARE WRONG.

Interests are the sine qua non of Connected Learning, so if librarians or educators start there by genuinely figuring out what youth are interested in and building their programming around that, they’ve gotten started in that direction. When CL happens spontaneously, the relationships and opportunities often come about through the course of the activity. When I started doing community theater as a teenager, I built relationships with peers and adult mentors and I had opportunities to learn things about theater production, to serve on non-profit boards, to act as a stage manager and a publicist. These aspects were not built into the environment explicitly for my benefit; they were natural byproducts of me participating in my interest.

So if you’re a librarian or educator considering implementing Connected Learning, please don’t be overwhelmed by the multiple spheres and various possibilities. If you’re building from youth interests, you can bring in the other components over time.

The creators of Project READY had the same problem: we shared frameworks that it’s easy to feel you must implement perfectly or not at all. We discussed Dr. James A. Banks’s framework for multicultural education, which has four levels of integration, ranging from the contributions approach (what we sometimes call the “heroes and holidays” approach to culture) all the way to the social action approach, in which students actually work to solve social issues. It can be easy to see models where youth contact government officials and make social change and think, “Well, I don’t have what I need to do that, so this model has nothing for me.” But there are two other levels in the model, the additive approach incorporating new multicultural content without changing curricular structure and the transformation approach which involves reshaping curriculum to center multiculturalism rather than adding it on. If your current approach is at the contributions level, moving to the additive approach is preferable to giving up on the whole framework.

As with improving the nutritional quality of your diet, adding more movement into your day, or any habit change, moving in the right direction is preferable to not moving at all. For example, if you learn you have some youth at your library interested in cosplay, maybe you start by hosting some simple no-sew project events. Then over time you can find out if there is a cosplay charity organization in your area and find out if any of those cosplayers would be interested in sharing their expertise, and the youth might build relationships with them as well as each other. And those cosplayers might then introduce the youth to opportunities like participating in contests or engaging in charitable cosplay themselves. You didn’t start with all three parts, but you moved in the direction of Connected Learning at each stage.